Aug 25, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52
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#41
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Forge Runner
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Originally Posted by Avarre
It doesn't mean the game is better, but it does mean the game is more successful. If you're judging a game all-around, and not just on gameplay value, that's a very big thing to consider. I might think WoW is a terrible game, but if I want to argue that I'd better have a huge point to bring against it to make up for the fact it is extremely successful.
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Counter Strike. It is considered the measuring stick for team based e-sport FPS games. It has atrocious weapon balance and awful maps - something that usually makes an FPS 'bad'. Yet it's ridiculously popular amongst competitive players. Popular e-sport games aren't e-sport games because they are good - they are just that, popular. People can and do like bad things.
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Originally Posted by Avarre
I don't know enough about TA, as I said, to say it isn't a good game, but the fact that it is so niche in comparison to much larger games seems to breed fanatic fanboyism bordering on religious zeal. True, there are a lot of good games that get overlooked, but nobody has said it isn't 'good'. The only reason this thread got sidetracked is the zomg best game evar crap, but that said, a game as old as TA that still has a playerbase probably isn't a bad game.
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TA itself is a good game. Personally, I find it better than StarCraft. It's wealth of units offers a unique method of balancing - units aren't balanced in the normal fashion. There's just so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing many units, something is going to counter something else. This does not make it good for competitive gameplay - but if it became popular, like Counter Strike, it would hardly matter. Now, personally, though I like Total Annihilation, it's not the best RTS of all time. Blasphemy in this thread, I know, but it's not. Homeworld is.
Last edited by -Loki-; Aug 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM // 23:56..
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Aug 26, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42
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#42
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IRC W H O R E
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration
Guild: Yale University [Snow]
Profession: W/
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TA is a STEAMING. PILE. OF. SHIT.
Though you really have to love guns that can shoot across the entire map, and winning by pressing highlighting 500 units, and clicking on the opposite side.
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Aug 26, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52
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#43
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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bad trolls are bad
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Aug 26, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53
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#44
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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You wouldn't know a good troll if one punched you in the face.
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Aug 26, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49
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#45
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
You wouldn't know a good troll if one punched you in the face.
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a internet troll punching me in the face is one of the most ironic things ive ever heard considering people troll for the exact reason of being a billion miles away from the people they're trolling
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Aug 26, 2008, 08:00 AM // 08:00
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#46
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Croatia
Profession: A/P
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This game might have been big in it's time but now it's extremely primitive and outdated. Stop worshipping it and move on. There are plenty of better games out there.
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Aug 26, 2008, 09:00 AM // 09:00
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#47
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ]
Profession: R/
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Ah... I remember sending in my commander into the base of my opponent and making him selfdestruct.
Building a Big Bertha (sp?) and finally after half an hour of buildtime could commence shooting everything to pieces at the other side of the battlefield.
Ow and aircraft carriers....
And Peewee ofcourse ^^
Good times.
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Aug 26, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52
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#48
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The 5th Celestial Boss
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Inverness, Scotland
Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Building a Big Bertha (sp?) and finally after half an hour of buildtime could commence shooting everything to pieces at the other side of the battlefield.
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I found that to be a very therapeutic way of playing the game.
2 or 3 Big Berthas and you were good to go.
I still love my army of Tritons...and The Annihilator...I think it was called. That was a genius toy also.
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Last edited by Cebe; Aug 26, 2008 at 09:57 AM // 09:57..
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Aug 26, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11
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#49
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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building hundreds of hawks, having them attack a target across the map and watching the spectacle as they form a spectacularly massive formation across your radar, spread out, then collapse in for the kill
good times
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Aug 26, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58
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#50
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mancland, British Empire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Homeworld is.
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Agree. Even better with mods like the starwars one. HW2 was pretty sweet as well.
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Aug 26, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19
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#51
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Profession: R/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu
building hundreds of hawks, having them attack a target across the map and watching the spectacle as they form a spectacularly massive formation across your radar, spread out, then collapse in for the kill
good times
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I loved doing that, I'd have 20 or so construction planes set to "guard" the aircraft constructor and they'd help spew out about 50 Freedom Fighters in a matter of minutes.
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Aug 26, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11
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#52
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest
Profession: W/
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Look, guys, Total Annihilation was a great game. Not the best ever, but also not bad. Quite great, really.
Of course, it's also quite old. Nothing withstads the test of time forever.
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Aug 28, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55
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#53
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Volterra, Italy
Profession: A/
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Starcraft might be old and the graphics shitty as hell, but at least it's a classic. Now this annihilation thing looks just as crap and ISN'T a classic...booo
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Aug 28, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58
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#54
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Land of Confusion
Guild: [swea]
Profession: W/
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Gonna get s*it for this.
Never heard of this game >.>
But if it's the greatest RTS ever, I'll check it out
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Aug 28, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02
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#55
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murmel
Gonna get s*it for this.
Never heard of this game >.>
But if it's the greatest RTS ever, I'll check it out
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hah, thats great compared to people like the poster above you "it not clasic it shit atlst starcraft clasic"
Give it a try, im sure you'll love it. Refer to my other post for where to get it, go to the link in the OP to get all the updates/patches (that link to download the game already has the patch I think), 3rd party maps and units, mods, mutations, etc. etc.
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Aug 29, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33
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#56
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Behind you!
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by illidan009
Starcraft might be old and the graphics shitty as hell, but at least it's a classic. Now this annihilation thing looks just as crap and ISN'T a classic...booo
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Well it was released a year prior to Starcraft, and it was fair amount more complex. Complexity can sometimes lead games to be less desirable because it takes time to learn it. Take X3: Reunion for example. That game has a higher learning curve than Eve, it got nothing but good reviews and yet many people have never heard of it because it's complexity and steep learning curve scare people off.
Don't knock it unless you've tried it is what I'm trying to say, I guess.
EDIT: Another reason it wasn't as popular was probably due to the fact that it was a bit of a performance hog much like it's current day lookalike. It was probably one of the first RTS games to be entirely (or almost entirely) 3d, it also featured it's own physics engine and very good graphics for it's time.
Last edited by RedNova88; Aug 29, 2008 at 10:47 AM // 10:47..
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Aug 29, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29
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#57
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedNova88
EDIT: Another reason it wasn't as popular was probably due to the fact that it was a bit of a performance hog much like it's current day lookalike. It was probably one of the first RTS games to be entirely (or almost entirely) 3d, it also featured it's own physics engine and very good graphics for it's time.
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I remember doubling my RAM to a whopping 64Mb just so I could play the Seven Islands map.
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